Everybody's Talkin' ...
... about Alec Baldwin. Yep, ever since last week's voicemail tirade tape was leaked, it seems almost everyone has something to say about the 30 Rock star. As if the tape itself weren't bad enough, we also have the classic Baldwin/Basinger verbal volleys and then AB's drop-in on The View. Because, you know, when there's just not enough drama already, involve the gals on The View. But really, who needs The View when you have the iVillage community adding their own (much more interesting) reactions and opinions about this crazy mess? The members of the Domestic Abuse: New Beginnings message board are not impressed:
"He sounded completely immature for a man of his age, and I am guessing this may be the reason Kim Basinger left him and is fighting so hard for her child.""This just goes to show you that abuse is everywhere and has no boundaries. You don't need to be poor for this to happen, even the rich do it. (they just have better lawyers to cover it up). If Alec is this way with an innocent child, how was he with Kim?"
The custody battles, missed calls and the notion of parental alienation in this situation struck a chord on the Stepmoms/Bio Moms Debate message board:
"He had a right to be upset that his daughter did not call him, and address it with her, but he wayyy overreacted and the name calling is never acceptable. I am sure a lot of parents saw themselves in this phone call. A lot of divorced parents are upset due to missed phone calls.""The mother and father have clearly set the stage for a poor father-daughter relationship."
"I have said things to my children that I am not proud of. I am human...the good news for me is that I'm a nobody and there isn't a soul who would care to record me and put it out in the public."
And my personal favorite summary ...
"I think they are both psycho and the only good thing is they have been so preoccupied with each other they haven't remarried and dragged more people into their psycho mess."
What do you think? Is this just one more chapter in what seems to be a never-ending ugly divorce story? Does Alec need professional help? Should he be allowed to leave 30 Rock? Why are we so fascinated with these celebrity train wrecks? Toss in your two cents about this latest round of dysfunctional celebrity family news!
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All I have to say is thank goodness these people don't hear half of what is said to my kids. It's easy to judge when you're not in the situation.
I find the whole thing incredibly sad, especially for his daughter's sake. Sure, parents sometimes blow a gasket, but it's not every day that their verbal assault is publicized for all the world to see and hear. If it weren't leaked to the press accidentally (on purpose), then she could've forgiven and forgotten and they could've moved on in peace, but because it's out there now, she's going to forever deal with questions and comments about the awful things he said in the heat of the moment. No, he's not excused, but neither is the person who leaked it to the press, and BOTH of these so-called adults need to seek professional help immediately. Dr. Phil offered his services to them, saying he'd see them on camera or off and would help them work things out for the sake of their child, and I think they should take him up on it and seek professional help to put this hatred and anger to rest and move towards giving their child a more normal life.
Well, I'm not excusing his name calling but maybe the man had a legitimate gripe with his daughter and the phone calls.
Obviously what he did was wrong in so many ways. In what was already a horribly long and nasty custody battle he just pretty much sunk himself. But then again, maybe it's good that this came out. Do I think he should be allowed to leave 30 Rock? Eh, tough call. I know he is a huge part of what makes the show, but as a parent I think it's awful to keep a parent who has such obvious anger management issues locked into a contract. The man truly needs help.
Puleeze. Yeah, he's probably a jerk and pretty full of himself. But, if this is a precedent the courts want to set, well, there are a lot of parents out there who should be scared it will happen to them. So, unless there is some abusive pattern that's already been shown, lay off the guy already.
Their poor daughter! I hope he gets his anger in check and soon!
Basil, I was thinking the same thing, lol - many parents, myself included, have flown off the handle when dealing with their kids, especially when you're already tired and frustrated and dealing with a difficult situation. I have much sympathy for him because he's now being portrayed as a monster, when I think that, yes, he's got major anger issues, but he's not a monster.
The saddest thing about all of this is that it's adding yet more anger and resentment and negativity to what's already been a long, emotionally-charged custody battle. And it's very clear that neither parent has the child's best interests at heart. They're far too busy being wrapped up in themselves and their anger at the other for whatever to even think of what this is all doing to their child. I mean, I've seen people battle for six months, but SIX YEARS?? Enough is enough. Get over yourselves and settle this and give that little girl her life back.
Steph and I were saying the other night that that girl's gonna age out of the system before anybody can settle anything. She's already 11, not much longer now to go and it'll all be moot.
I think this should have stayed between them and never been made public. I doubt many mothers or fathers can say they never have said horrible things to their child(ren). We are all human. The only difference is that most of us aren't public figures.
this is sad to me. The poor child, tug-of-war is never fun for the rope.
I keep hearing 'poor Kim,' but I doubt he suddenly turned this way. She knew what she was getting. And who says she hasn't been just as bad?
I can't even believe it is being considered to fire him. NONE of us would have jobs if they were contingent upon our parenting skills. Everyone wants big brother out of our lives but I guess that's only when it doesn't mean us specifically. So he did a really bad, really stupid and really mean thing. Yes, give him anger management classes because his target was an 11 yo child but fire him? Come on it's so easy for us to talk when we're not involved, don't know the real story and are being judged by everyone else.
First Imus is fired for doing the same thing many others have done (however stupid that was too) and now Alec B should be fired for bad parenting, something entirely unrelated to his job? What an unforgiving bunch of high and mighty people we are anymore. Be careful, don't burp at your desk or read a dirty mag, you may be fired! Oh wait, not fair! ;)
Celeb drama, why do we love it so? What he did was wrong. The long drawn-out custody battle is a mess and the way it effects the child is wrong. There's just so much wrong here.
I have no doubts that that an 11yo girl can try a parent's patience. I heard a lot more hurt than angry in Alec's voice.
I think that it's a shame that the courts haven't done more to resolve the parental disputes in a timely manner.
This phrase is great... NONE of us would have jobs if they were contingent upon our parenting skills. ... Thank you for saying it Portia, it's right on the nose. The rest of the family story should not be in the news but unfortunately that goes with celebrity territory.
It's sad. I feel bad for his daughter, but honestly I feel bad for him too. Haven't we ALL said things to our kids that we regret? I certainly have and I wouldn't want the whole world to hear it over and over again.
It's sad and ridiculous that the whole divorce/custody situation of their's has gone on as long as it has.
i always believe that a family problem should remain a family's problem. unless it really gets out of hand.